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		<title>By: High School Online</title>
		<link>http://suewaters.com/2007/09/01/tips/comment-page-1/#comment-887</link>
		<dc:creator>High School Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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I couldn&#039;t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting...</description>
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<p>I couldn&#8217;t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mobile Technology in TAFE &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Make It Interactive, Engaging and Model Use of Tools! Will I Crash and Burn?</title>
		<link>http://suewaters.com/2007/09/01/tips/comment-page-1/#comment-557</link>
		<dc:creator>Mobile Technology in TAFE &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Make It Interactive, Engaging and Model Use of Tools! Will I Crash and Burn?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the advice people have been giving me on How Do We Get Others To BUY IN? To Make Them Go The Extra Miles With E-learning?&#160;has recommended&#160;focusing on&#160;people skills that help them in their own [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Russel&#8217;s teaching blog &#187; Helping teachers buy into IT</title>
		<link>http://suewaters.com/2007/09/01/tips/comment-page-1/#comment-553</link>
		<dc:creator>Russel&#8217;s teaching blog &#187; Helping teachers buy into IT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 12:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Judy O'Connell</title>
		<link>http://suewaters.com/2007/09/01/tips/comment-page-1/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy O'Connell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 12:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue, what you are really doing is showing them a taste of the possible! and why it makes sense with digital kids - point to ideas from Pew Report, Marc Prensky etc as rationale. Throw in a couple of short videos - my favourites are the CISCO human network videos (you&#039;ll find them in my vodpod. Encourage the teachers to draw on their expertise to create new experiences for their students, and to do this by &#039;having a go&#039; at some new tools.    Give them a &#039;wish list&#039; of Web 2.0 tools - like the list I have in my latest slideshare presenation. In other words, make it exiting, challenging, fun and definitely something they CAN do - and actually CAN&#039;T afford not to do as well :-) Good luck and enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue, what you are really doing is showing them a taste of the possible! and why it makes sense with digital kids &#8211; point to ideas from Pew Report, Marc Prensky etc as rationale. Throw in a couple of short videos &#8211; my favourites are the CISCO human network videos (you&#8217;ll find them in my vodpod. Encourage the teachers to draw on their expertise to create new experiences for their students, and to do this by &#8216;having a go&#8217; at some new tools.    Give them a &#8216;wish list&#8217; of Web 2.0 tools &#8211; like the list I have in my latest slideshare presenation. In other words, make it exiting, challenging, fun and definitely something they CAN do &#8211; and actually CAN&#8217;T afford not to do as well <img src='http://suewaters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Good luck and enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://suewaters.com/2007/09/01/tips/comment-page-1/#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darren puts me to shame in this one.   Please don&#039;t make me out to be a total geek.  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren puts me to shame in this one.   Please don&#8217;t make me out to be a total geek.  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://suewaters.com/2007/09/01/tips/comment-page-1/#comment-466</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 18:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue,

This is a great idea to have people submit interviews, and I will gladly send one your way, as soon as time allows.  Darren&#039;s was classic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue,</p>
<p>This is a great idea to have people submit interviews, and I will gladly send one your way, as soon as time allows.  Darren&#8217;s was classic.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip N</title>
		<link>http://suewaters.com/2007/09/01/tips/comment-page-1/#comment-457</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 07:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have learnt something new. DOn&#039;t use greater than signs a speech marks.
Last bit of penultimate paragraph should read: 
 I asked one of the teachers who said yes, we print off the jpg attachment, correct it and send it back by AusPost.  “But why”, I asked? “Well we’ve always sent back their work by post.” Yes, yes, it doesn’t matter if times have changed…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have learnt something new. DOn&#8217;t use greater than signs a speech marks.<br />
Last bit of penultimate paragraph should read:<br />
 I asked one of the teachers who said yes, we print off the jpg attachment, correct it and send it back by AusPost.  “But why”, I asked? “Well we’ve always sent back their work by post.” Yes, yes, it doesn’t matter if times have changed…</p>
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		<title>By: Philip N</title>
		<link>http://suewaters.com/2007/09/01/tips/comment-page-1/#comment-456</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 07:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree with Christine that you have to present a little – keep it simple, don’t go in at the deep end (show them flickr before podcasts) and don’t overwhelm them with new gadgets which are fun but of limited relevance. (I am fascinated by GPS but really how can I use it usefully with my ESL classes?); allow them to see how they can use the technology, which means finding out who your audience is going to be and what subjects and kinds of classes they are teaching. If the group is too general, why not just take a tour round EdNa and nings to show them how they can use it meet like-interested teachers? 

But really Sue, I think you are worrying too much, having been in one of your sessions I personally picked up so much. You have to bear in mind, however, that you have to be content with a very low adoption rate. I have been trying to get our teachers to embrace e-teaching more than they do and  you have to accept two things:
•	only a few participants (if any) will do anything about your suggestions, even though they all greet the new knowledge with apparent (and often real) interest
•	initial enthusiasm of most of these few will soon give way to former routines.

I had an example of this last week. Two years ago I showed some of our distance learning lecturers how to correct e-mailed scanned assignments (from a workbook) by writing over them with an image editing program (even Paint although I would use something like Snagit now), re-attach them and email them back. Fantastic, they all said! so easy! so simple! and so time-saving! Anyway, I was wandering around the office on Monday and saw a completed workbook assignment printed out in B&amp;W. I asked one of the teachers who said yes, we print off the jpg attachment, correct it and send it back by AusPost.  , I asked?  Yes, yes, it doesn’t matter if times have changed…

You can but hope to inspire by your example but don’t be put down if not much comes of your efforts -  you have done your bit to change the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree with Christine that you have to present a little – keep it simple, don’t go in at the deep end (show them flickr before podcasts) and don’t overwhelm them with new gadgets which are fun but of limited relevance. (I am fascinated by GPS but really how can I use it usefully with my ESL classes?); allow them to see how they can use the technology, which means finding out who your audience is going to be and what subjects and kinds of classes they are teaching. If the group is too general, why not just take a tour round EdNa and nings to show them how they can use it meet like-interested teachers? </p>
<p>But really Sue, I think you are worrying too much, having been in one of your sessions I personally picked up so much. You have to bear in mind, however, that you have to be content with a very low adoption rate. I have been trying to get our teachers to embrace e-teaching more than they do and  you have to accept two things:<br />
•	only a few participants (if any) will do anything about your suggestions, even though they all greet the new knowledge with apparent (and often real) interest<br />
•	initial enthusiasm of most of these few will soon give way to former routines.</p>
<p>I had an example of this last week. Two years ago I showed some of our distance learning lecturers how to correct e-mailed scanned assignments (from a workbook) by writing over them with an image editing program (even Paint although I would use something like Snagit now), re-attach them and email them back. Fantastic, they all said! so easy! so simple! and so time-saving! Anyway, I was wandering around the office on Monday and saw a completed workbook assignment printed out in B&amp;W. I asked one of the teachers who said yes, we print off the jpg attachment, correct it and send it back by AusPost.  , I asked?  Yes, yes, it doesn’t matter if times have changed…</p>
<p>You can but hope to inspire by your example but don’t be put down if not much comes of your efforts &#8211;  you have done your bit to change the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Wegner</title>
		<link>http://suewaters.com/2007/09/01/tips/comment-page-1/#comment-455</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Wegner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 06:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to top Darren&#039;s advice but after emerging from my tiredness after Melbourne, I reckon there&#039;s some power in sharing the story of how you got involved in using Web 2.0 tools, what were the factors that caused you to &quot;buy in&quot; and where that journey has taken you. I&#039;m still worried that the solemn, quiet faces after my session were because they thought I was crud but it could have been that they were thinking hard about I had to say. Your point about &quot;LIKE relates better to LIKE&quot; probably is worth exploring and explaining as the fact that elearning is the common thread between sectors and education roles can be exploited. Put it to your assembled group that there is more to learn from people in different situations than your own - and that the best thing Web 2.0 does is allow you to easily learn from others. Look at who&#039;s offering to help you here - they aren&#039;t fellow aquaculture TAFE lecturers, but they are all elearners. I&#039;ll be on Skype tonight if you want to bounce some more ideas but seriously, point them towards your wiki as a starting point and tell your story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to top Darren&#8217;s advice but after emerging from my tiredness after Melbourne, I reckon there&#8217;s some power in sharing the story of how you got involved in using Web 2.0 tools, what were the factors that caused you to &#8220;buy in&#8221; and where that journey has taken you. I&#8217;m still worried that the solemn, quiet faces after my session were because they thought I was crud but it could have been that they were thinking hard about I had to say. Your point about &#8220;LIKE relates better to LIKE&#8221; probably is worth exploring and explaining as the fact that elearning is the common thread between sectors and education roles can be exploited. Put it to your assembled group that there is more to learn from people in different situations than your own &#8211; and that the best thing Web 2.0 does is allow you to easily learn from others. Look at who&#8217;s offering to help you here &#8211; they aren&#8217;t fellow aquaculture TAFE lecturers, but they are all elearners. I&#8217;ll be on Skype tonight if you want to bounce some more ideas but seriously, point them towards your wiki as a starting point and tell your story.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Martell</title>
		<link>http://suewaters.com/2007/09/01/tips/comment-page-1/#comment-452</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Martell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 04:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue, 
I do a lot of professional development. Adults want the learning to be highly relevant, and  you are right in that they want to be sure you understand them. You&#039;ll have a range in the room. Some will be afraid of the technology itself, some will be afraid of the time it will take. It can help to acknowledge the fears, maybe even do a shout out of them. It will give you a sense of where the concerns are. Then balance it will a shout out of what people are excited about, which will give you an idea of how many people are at the other end of the spectrum.

The biggest thing with people who are low tech users is not to overwhelm them with all the cool things they can do. Focus on a few things, preferably ones that you can say can save them time rather than things that will take a lot of time. Maybe using delicious bookmarks to share resources with others? You have good material on that already, which you can then refer them to for follow up. You have to scaffold the learning after they leave you. You can&#039;t get them to integrated application in a training....they have to do that later. But you can refer them to resources that will help them when they are doing it by themselves. 

Think about something they can do and be successful. So if you send them to a site, make sure there is something clear for them to do, and someone who will interact with them. Seed it with conversations. Show them people asking questions and getting answers. I think a site with just unanswered questions (which is an all too common occurrence) is too intimidating for newcomers. 

Remember there is no lack of information, there is too much. The most effective thing you can do is provide filtering and guidance about a pathway through the info. 

Hope there is something helpful here. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll be great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue,<br />
I do a lot of professional development. Adults want the learning to be highly relevant, and  you are right in that they want to be sure you understand them. You&#8217;ll have a range in the room. Some will be afraid of the technology itself, some will be afraid of the time it will take. It can help to acknowledge the fears, maybe even do a shout out of them. It will give you a sense of where the concerns are. Then balance it will a shout out of what people are excited about, which will give you an idea of how many people are at the other end of the spectrum.</p>
<p>The biggest thing with people who are low tech users is not to overwhelm them with all the cool things they can do. Focus on a few things, preferably ones that you can say can save them time rather than things that will take a lot of time. Maybe using delicious bookmarks to share resources with others? You have good material on that already, which you can then refer them to for follow up. You have to scaffold the learning after they leave you. You can&#8217;t get them to integrated application in a training&#8230;.they have to do that later. But you can refer them to resources that will help them when they are doing it by themselves. </p>
<p>Think about something they can do and be successful. So if you send them to a site, make sure there is something clear for them to do, and someone who will interact with them. Seed it with conversations. Show them people asking questions and getting answers. I think a site with just unanswered questions (which is an all too common occurrence) is too intimidating for newcomers. </p>
<p>Remember there is no lack of information, there is too much. The most effective thing you can do is provide filtering and guidance about a pathway through the info. </p>
<p>Hope there is something helpful here. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll be great.</p>
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